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I always loved the album version, but since I've heard the version you play at concerts, I think it might make a great single. I know, you guys are touring every day but for what it's worth, I think recording the concert version of "Jealous Kind" would be a great thing if you could do it.

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I agree ~ I really love this live version but I was thinking more along the lines of a new live cd. I think it would do very well ~ the vibe they have going on right now is SO different from their Furthermore days. And the live shows just keep getting better and better.

I think it would be a fantastic way to raise money for BWM!

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I havent heard it yet...
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I havent heard it yet...


Sam, I think I have it somewhere. I could probably hook you up. If I can't find it, I'm sure Greg or Mike H might have something. In any case, if you do want to hear it I'm sure we can get you covered (and that goes for anyone else, too).
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Sweeeet.
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In any case, if you do want to hear it I'm sure we can get you covered (and that goes for anyone else, too).
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What about Lesser Things? That so rocks the way they do it in concert now it's hard to believe it's the same song. We first heard it this summer at Kings Fest. God, Steve is so into it I thought he would fall off the stool! Awesome and the B:W thing would be great.
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What about Lesser Things? That so rocks the way they do it in concert now it's hard to believe it's the same song.

Oh I know! Actually this is my fav live song that they perform ~ I can hardly wait until the Nov shows

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I'd love to hear both those songs live.
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That's why a new live cd would make perfect sense
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I realize that no one has replied to this thread in five years, but I wanted to say that I missed seeing or hearing anything from tours during the time of Who We Are Instead! This album has come to be one of my favorites and I would absolutely LOVE to see some live material released from it! I have heard people rave about these shows! (My roommate heard a performances of Lesser Things one time that just blew him away!) There is recorded-live material available now of most of the jars of clay albums, but not this one and I would really love to hear some of those performances!

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I didn't see any shows for the WWAI tour, but I did see some from the tour right before WWAI (I believe it was an all acoustic tour), and I remember them playing a couple of songs that would later be on the album (wish I could say which ones). I'd love to get my hands on some live audio too.
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I remember that during their pre-WWAI acoustic tour they definitely were playing Faith Enough, because it was strange to me that they played it on that tour but didn't play it after WWAI came out. I agree that there was another song or two as well, but I can't recall what they were right now.

Also, I was at a show on the WWAI tour and it was probably my 2nd favorite Jars show I've been to besides seeing them on the Good Monsters Tour, when they played the entire album save "Water Under the Bridge."
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Yeah, I certainly remember Faith Enough. I leaned over to a friend of mine and told them the new album was going to be great (based on that song alone).
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I remember that during their pre-WWAI acoustic tour they definitely were playing Faith Enough, because it was strange to me that they played it on that tour but didn't play it after WWAI came out.


I recall them playing a snippet of "Faith Enough" (just the end part, "Should the world rely on faith tonight") during their tour for Redemption Songs. It was tacked onto "Love Song for a Savior", and I remember it being a really interesting way to juxtapose two songs from different eras of their career. They did something similar with a medley of "Worlds Apart" and "Hiding Place" at that show.

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Also, I was at a show on the WWAI tour and it was probably my 2nd favorite Jars show I've been to besides seeing them on the Good Monsters Tour, when they played the entire album save "Water Under the Bridge."


I saw them on that tour, and it was definitely one of their best setlists. I figure when an album is new is the time you're mostly likely to hear lesser-known songs from that album live, so I was glad they got to as many of 'em as they could while GM was still their newest effort. Nowadays you're probably only going to get "Work" and "Dead Man" from that album (though I've heard tell of a "Worlds Apart"/"All My Tears" medley, and if there'd be one bootleg I'd love to get my hands on, that'd be the one).

Once an album is part of the back catalogue, I figure you don't get the right to complain if they don't play a particular song. (Though they do surprise me every now and then. A week later, I'm still in shock that they actually played "Frail", sandwiched in between two songs from TLFBTE.)

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I recall them playing a snippet of "Faith Enough" (just the end part, "Should the world rely on faith tonight") during their tour for Redemption Songs. It was tacked onto "Love Song for a Savior", and I remember it being a really interesting way to juxtapose two songs from different eras of their career. They did something similar with a medley of "Worlds Apart" and "Hiding Place" at that show


You're right; I forgot about that. I agree, it was nice to hear them tie that song back in even though it seemed like they had tossed it aside for a while.

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(Though they do surprise me every now and then. A week later, I'm still in shock that they actually played "Frail", sandwiched in between two songs from TLFBTE.)


I'm surprised how long they've been playing "Frail" live. I like the song and think it's fantastic live, but they had really abandoned it for a while and then pulled it back out and never put it away. (Actually, wasn't it the acoustic / pull a song from the hat tour when it first came back, while they were promoting "Furthermore," I guess?) Did they change much on the arrangement for this tour?
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Yeah "Jealous Kind" live would be so cool,I love Faith Enough! I love WWAI! I miss the acoustic era of Jars of Clay hehe
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I'm surprised how long they've been playing "Frail" live. I like the song and think it's fantastic live, but they had really abandoned it for a while and then pulled it back out and never put it away. (Actually, wasn't it the acoustic / pull a song from the hat tour when it first came back, while they were promoting "Furthermore," I guess?) Did they change much on the arrangement for this tour?


It's one of those songs where I knew it was getting played, but it never happened to get played at a show I attended. When they were doing the "hat" thing, they pulled other songs, so I missed out on "Frail", but I got "Redemption", which was a rarity, so I can't complain.

The arrangement of "Frail" wasn't too unusual on this tour. It started with the drum beat and I was actually expecting "Heart" based on that (a song which I've ironically compared to "Frail"). The main difference (just in comparing this version to the album and Stringtown versions) was a lengthy, generous electric guitar solo by Steve, and a keyboard solo by Dan (who was filling in for Charlie).

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It's one of those songs where I knew it was getting played, but it never happened to get played at a show I attended. When they were doing the "hat" thing, they pulled other songs, so I missed out on "Frail", but I got "Redemption", which was a rarity, so I can't complain. The arrangement of "Frail" wasn't too unusual on this tour. It started with the drum beat and I was actually expecting "Heart" based on that (a song which I've ironically compared to "Frail"). The main difference (just in comparing this version to the album and Stringtown versions) was a lengthy, generous electric guitar solo by Steve, and a keyboard solo by Dan (who was filling in for Charlie).


Thanks for the info on the arrangement. I was wondering if maybe they would throw some electronic stuff in to help match some of the other songs.

And you're right, "Frail" has been hit or miss during some of the tours, particularly the hat tour (which I also got to hear "Redemption," incidentally).
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Once an album is part of the back catalogue, I figure you don't get the right to complain if they don't play a particular song. (Though they do surprise me every now and then. A week later, I'm still in shock that they actually played "Frail", sandwiched in between two songs from TLFBTE.)


Wow. I'm jealous! I've seen then three times since The Eleventh Hour and never heard them play "Frail" one of my all-time favorite songs! Do you suppose they are still playing it on the Long Fall tour? If so, I would go see them just for that!

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That's funny because when I saw the Redemption Songs acoustic tour they played and Faith Enough and World's Apart medley. They went into World's Apart from Faith Enough and it was completely unexpected, one of my favorite Jars concert moments. I thought that an Oh, My God-World's Apart medley would also be cool.


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Once an album is part of the back catalogue, I figure you don't get the right to complain if they don't play a particular song. (Though they do surprise me every now and then. A week later, I'm still in shock that they actually played "Frail", sandwiched in between two songs from TLFBTE.)


Wow. I'm jealous! I've seen them three times since The Eleventh Hour and never heard them play "Frail", one of my all-time favorite songs! Do you suppose they are still playing it on the Long Fall tour? If so, I would go see them just for that!

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I recall them playing a snippet of "Faith Enough" (just the end part, "Should the world rely on faith tonight") during their tour for Redemption Songs. It was tacked onto "Love Song for a Savior", and I remember it being a really interesting way to juxtapose two songs from different eras of their career. They did something similar with a medley of "Worlds Apart" and "Hiding Place" at that show.


That's funny because when I saw the Redemption Songs acoustic tour they played and Faith Enough and World's Apart medley. They went into World's Apart from Faith Enough and it was completely unexpected, one of my favorite Jars concert moments. I thought that an Oh, My God-World's Apart medley would also be cool.


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Once an album is part of the back catalogue, I figure you don't get the right to complain if they don't play a particular song. (Though they do surprise me every now and then. A week later, I'm still in shock that they actually played "Frail", sandwiched in between two songs from TLFBTE.)


Wow. I'm jealous! I've seen them three times since The Eleventh Hour and never heard them play "Frail", one of my all-time favorite songs! Do you suppose they are still playing it on the Long Fall tour? If so, I would go see them just for that!

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I recall them playing a snippet of "Faith Enough" (just the end part, "Should the world rely on faith tonight") during their tour for Redemption Songs. It was tacked onto "Love Song for a Savior", and I remember it being a really interesting way to juxtapose two songs from different eras of their career. They did something similar with a medley of "Worlds Apart" and "Hiding Place" at that show.


That's funny because when I saw the Redemption Songs acoustic tour they played an Faith Enough and World's Apart medley. They went into World's Apart from Faith Enough and it was completely unexpected, one of my favorite Jars concert moments. I thought that an Oh, My God-World's Apart medley would also be cool.


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Wow. I'm jealous! I've seen then three times since The Eleventh Hour and never heard them play "Frail" one of my all-time favorite songs! Do you suppose they are still playing it on the Long Fall tour? If so, I would go see them just for that!


I have no idea whether it's a regular part of the tour setlist. Part of me hopes it is so that more folks will get to hear it; part of me hopes they're changing up the setlist between shows. (Though they're not known to have a rotating setlist, "hat songs" notwithstanding.)

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That's funny because when I saw the Redemption Songs acoustic tour they played and Faith Enough and World's Apart medley. They went into World's Apart from Faith Enough and it was completely unexpected, one of my favorite Jars concert moments.


Now you're making me wonder if I got my song medleys backwards.

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Yeah, I remember the Faith Enough and Worlds Apart Medley
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I remember Faith Enough and Worlds Apart too, but I didn't think it was part of the Redemption Songs tour. But then again, I don't remember Faith Enough being used on three different tours.
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