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MikeHarvat

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Since I love talking about b-sides, demos, and otherr arities, and since it's been 14 years since the band has released such a project, let's talk unreleased songs! If there was a White Elephant Sessions Part 2, what could be on it? What songs have we heard live (or heard of) that haven't seen the light of day on a record?

Off the top of my head, here's a list...
Blame
No One Loves Me Like You (Original Version)
Apparition
Bullet
Gravity
America
God Will Lift Up Your Head (6/8 demo mentioned in the RS StageIt)
Hero43 (would be nice to hear a mixed version of this one - the "premix" is a little rough)
Any of the remaining songs the band demoed for Inland

Honestly with as many songs as the band apparently recorded for Inland, I think they could make a lot of fans ecstatic with an "Inland Rejects" EP. Switchfoot just did it with Fading West, why not Jars? [smile]
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WHEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Love this stuff.  I get irrationally excited about songs I've never heard.

Everything you said, for sure.  Possibly even 2 versions of "Blame"? [smile] Honestly, though, I'd love to see the progression it made.  Even hearing the lyrical differences between the July '96 and October '96 versions is interesting.  I'd even go as far to say the lyrics regressed a bit during that time.  I can see why they weren't ready to put it on Much Afraid.

Here are some more:
Favorite Breakup Song
Body and Wine (version 2)
Body and Wine (version 3)
It is Well With My Soul (original Jars version pre-being told to pick up the tempo on it)
Studio tracks left off of Furthermore (supposedly only "The Stone")
I'm Alright (reprise)
EDIT: I'd also be interested in a followup of sorts to Front Yard Luge with all of the live covers they've done since then (if they happened to record it all).  Baker Street, Life in a Northern Town, Land of Confusion, etc.


I don't know that they'd do this, but I would 100% buy a box set/huge digital release of every b-side they ever had, demos, excess stuff from Stringtown and 11ive, literally whatever they can dig up that we haven't heard yet.  Like even if it's $80-$100 or whatever I would completely be on board.

PS, I've said this before, but I really miss The Jars World site that had the inside scoop on all the b-sides.  I ate that stuff up and have missed it since it went dormant... 10 years ago?!  Yikes.
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Why do I not know...

Apparition
Bullet
Gravity

Where were these?
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Apparition and Bullet were tracks that were listed on preorders of If I Left the Zoo, but didn't make the final cut.

Gravity was a song they worked on during The Eleventh Hour but that didn't make it, either.  The instrumental for Gravity is on in 11ive.  I think it might be the menu music, even.
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Side note: I'm listening to the original version of Grace, and I'm struck by how easily this song would fit on Good Monsters. Sneak it in between Take Me Higher and Mirrors and Smoke and no one would notice...
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Here's a question: if you could hear the demo version of one existing Jars album, which would it be?
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My vote would be for The Eleventh Hour, as it's easily the most "produced" sounding album from the band. Hearing where those songs started would be great.

Other than that, probably Good Monsters.

We have the demos for Self Titled [smile]
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Yeah, would have to agree with you. I watched 10:30 and the artflick for the first time in probably 10 years the other night and you can hear them working on the early mixes of the songs. I like the sound of them a lot. There was a good chunk of Disappear, some Edge of Water, a lot of the writing/building of Whatever She Wants, and a bit of Fly. Plus some snippets of stuff that didn't make it. Definitely worth a revisit if you haven't seen it lately.
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Maybe this is included in your Inland leftovers, but I definitely want to hear the Inland/Tucker Martine version of "If You Love Her".
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Isn't that on Jars 20? I can't imagine they would spend time and money to re-imagine a song that hadn't even been released before. I always assumed they just put the original b-side on 20, just as with Ghost in the Moon.
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You would think so, right? But doesn't the recording and the arrangement sound a lot more "20" than "Inland"?
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I assumed that the b-side was just mixed and mastered so that it fit in on Jars 20...for it not sounding very "Inland-y,"  I think that's why they left it off the album!

Also, I've taken way too long to share this, but check it out:

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This is the playlist of unreleased songs played at Gray Matters during the studio tour last month. Looks like we have more than enough tunes for a WES#2 [smile]

I don't really remember many of the songs in particular, except "The Only One" is an early version of Take Me Higher. It had a different chorus to begin with, and the original bridge was turned into the chorus that we all know.

Also, I can confirm that GRAVITY is, in fact, the instrumental on 11 Live. I grabbed a 30-second clip of the chorus with vocals on my iphone. I'll share it soon...
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Wow, I want to hear these songs! A lot of them look to be completely finished tunes as well. 

 

They could easily release a B-sides album to hold us over until they do a new record!

 

Imagine a double cd with one of them being completed b-sides and the other demos or live recordings. A man can dream [smile]

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Oh, Mike.  You've outdone yourself.  That's amazing.  Oh man now I want to hear all of them so badly.  Assuming "Talk to Me" isn't "Eyes Wide Open" based on the date of the demo?
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Correct. There was a lot going on so I didn't get much of a chance to listen actively, but I didn't hear anything that sounded like an early version of Eyes Wide Open.

Also, here's the clip of Gravity! gravity_clip.mp3

Not at all what I was expecting. Funny how that works...
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Wow... I always tried to picture a melody line for it but never expected the chorus (?) after that familiar instrumental we know to sound the way it did.  Hope we get the whole thing some day!
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Does anyone have any of these unreleased or too-rare-to-buy songs on mp3 that they'd be willing to share with an interested fan??
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