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..so I'm a huge fan of Skillet. Their new album, Awake, dropped the 25th.

You can check out my review of it here

Who else, if you listen to them, was disappointed that it sounded so similar to their 2006 album, Comatose?


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I'll continue the conversation here that I started in another thread. I haven't listened to Awake enough times for every single song to make a definite impression on me, but I will say that my impression of the album so far is overwhelmingly negative... and I've at least marginally enjoyed everything Skillet's done before this point. The album shows off the two extremes that are Skillet's worst habits - being absolutely bone-headed on the rockers, and sounding like they're trying to write for the soundtrack of a WB drama on the ballads. That's mostly the fault of the lyrics, which in their attempt to relate to teenagers, have unfortunately turned out to sound shallow and superficial in many places. I respect that they're trying to address issues like teen suicide, eating disorders, etc., but vagueness and platitudes aren't a good way to go about this. Elsewhere, they turn out a few laughably bad love/breakup songs that sound like they came from the diary or LiveJournal of a teenager throwing a temper tantrum. ("Should've When You Could've" takes the cake as their most embarrassing song to date. This song is hilarious in the most unintentional way.) Also, John Cooper's voice just isn't suited for that sort of song.

Basically I think Skillet is washed up at this point. They've realized what will sell the most records and they're exploiting it at the expense of whatever remaining artistic integrity they had. I get that they want to connect to a younger audience, but you know, the youth groups seemed to like 'em just fine 10 years ago when they were making albums like Hey You, I Love Your Soul. I wish they'd give today's younger generation the same credit for intelligence that they gave the youth of the 90's.

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I'll continue the conversation here that I started in another thread. I haven't listened to Awake enough times for every single song to make a definite impression on me, but I will say that my impression of the album so far is overwhelmingly negative... and I've at least marginally enjoyed everything Skillet's done before this point. The album shows off the two extremes that are Skillet's worst habits - being absolutely bone-headed on the rockers, and sounding like they're trying to write for the soundtrack of a WB drama on the ballads. That's mostly the fault of the lyrics, which in their attempt to relate to teenagers, have unfortunately turned out to sound shallow and superficial in many places. I respect that they're trying to address issues like teen suicide, eating disorders, etc., but vagueness and platitudes aren't a good way to go about this. Elsewhere, they turn out a few laughably bad love/breakup songs that sound like they came from the diary or LiveJournal of a teenager throwing a temper tantrum. ("Should've When You Could've" takes the cake as their most embarrassing song to date. This song is hilarious in the most unintentional way.) Also, John Cooper's voice just isn't suited for that sort of song.

Basically I think Skillet is washed up at this point. They've realized what will sell the most records and they're exploiting it at the expense of whatever remaining artistic integrity they had. I get that they want to connect to a younger audience, but you know, the youth groups seemed to like 'em just fine 10 years ago when they were making albums like Hey You, I Love Your Soul. I wish they'd give today's younger generation the same credit for intelligence that they gave the youth of the 90's.

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Amen.

"Should've When You Could've" and "Believe" are laughably bad, maybe some of the worst in their career, like you said. "It's Not Me, It's You" is overly repetitive in the lyrical department, and other songs fail there as well.

However, there are some high points to the album. "Never Surrender" is my favorite song by them thus far, and "Lucy" is not far behind, if not for nothing more than how much they both relate to me and problems I've dealt with, as well as being pretty musically/lyrically sound.

Some songs such as "Sometimes", "Monster", or "Awake & Alive" are songs that I really wanted to love, but can't. I merely like them, at best. And I have been fryed multiple times on the Skillet boards for my opinion of the album, because according to them, this is "one of the best Skillet albums to date".

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"Should've When You Could've" and "Believe" are laughably bad, maybe some of the worst in their career, like you said. "It's Not Me, It's You" is overly repetitive in the lyrical department, and other songs fail there as well.


"It's Not Me, It's You" is the title of Lily Allen's most recent album. I can't take the song seriously because they so obviously borrowed the idea from her.

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However, there are some high points to the album. "Never Surrender" is my favorite song by them thus far, and "Lucy" is not far behind, if not for nothing more than how much they both relate to me and problems I've dealt with, as well as being pretty musically/lyrically sound.


By the time I get to the last few tracks on the album, I have no lunch left to lose, so I honestly can't tell if those tracks would make me want to heave as well, or if they're good in their own right and I just need to isolate them to appreciate them.

So "Lucy" is about abortion? Really? I had misinterpreted it as being about suicide.

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Some songs such as "Sometimes", "Monster", or "Awake & Alive" are songs that I really wanted to love, but can't. I merely like them, at best. And I have been fryed multiple times on the Skillet boards for my opinion of the album, because according to them, this is "one of the best Skillet albums to date".


Most of those folks were probably barely even born back when Skillet was writing their best songs. You'll always get the diehard fans on those sorts of boards, especially for the bands that appeal to a younger crowd. Not to say that young folks aren't capable of intelligence, but most of Christian music treats them like they're not, so it becomes a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. There's a pretty big contrast between a band like that a band like Jars who definitely has their die-hard fans, but whose fans will generally listen to an album with a good critical ear and sum up their feelings about it intelligently instead of just automatically loving everything about it out of some misguided sense of loyalty. (Though we have some of both types here... but the blind fanboys/girls don't run the show here, thankfully.)

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So "Lucy" is about abortion? Really? I had misinterpreted it as being about suicide.


Well, it was written with abortion in mind, but it's vague enough to be pretty open-ended, as far as how you interpret it.


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Most of those folks were probably barely even born back when Skillet was writing their best songs. You'll always get the diehard fans on those sorts of boards, especially for the bands that appeal to a younger crowd. Not to say that young folks aren't capable of intelligence, but most of Christian music treats them like they're not, so it becomes a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. There's a pretty big contrast between a band like that a band like Jars who definitely has their die-hard fans, but whose fans will generally listen to an album with a good critical ear and sum up their feelings about it intelligently instead of just automatically loving everything about it out of some misguided sense of loyalty. (Though we have some of both types here... but the blind fanboys/girls don't run the show here, thankfully.)


Yes, we have those types on the Skillet boards as well. Thankfully, I like both bands, albeit I'm kind of losing faith in Skillet..

Anyway, you have made some excellent points here, and I agree.

Also, try singing the chorus of "The Older I Get" along to the chorus to "One Day Too Late". It fits a little too perfect.

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Well, it was written with abortion in mind, but it's vague enough to be pretty open-ended, as far as how you interpret it.


That's my problem with "very special episode" songs like that - either they're so specific that the songwriter doesn't know how to express it artfully, or the artist consciously makes it vague enough to fit the lowest common denominator, and loses the gut-wrenching reality of the situation in the process. Either way, I got a rough idea that it was about losing someone and not getting to say goodbye, but the fact that I completely guessed wrong about the meaning doesn't bode well for the song.


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Also, try singing the chorus of "The Older I Get" along to the chorus to "One Day Too Late". It fits a little too perfect.


Haven't tried that yet; I was too busy trying to get the chorus of "Say Goodbye" out of my head while listening to "Don't Wake Me". It's a pretty sad day when I can talk about a new Skillet song and say "It's like the worst song on Comatose, except that it's worse than that."

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That's my problem with "very special episode" songs like that - either they're so specific that the songwriter doesn't know how to express it artfully, or the artist consciously makes it vague enough to fit the lowest common denominator, and loses the gut-wrenching reality of the situation in the process. Either way, I got a rough idea that it was about losing someone and not getting to say goodbye, but the fact that I completely guessed wrong about the meaning doesn't bode well for the song.

I liked "Lucy". But I may feel differently because I knew what the song was orginally written about, unlike you. I can see what you mean, however.

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Haven't tried that yet; I was too busy trying to get the chorus of "Say Goodbye" out of my head while listening to "Don't Wake Me". It's a pretty sad day when I can talk about a new Skillet song and say "It's like the worst song on Comatose, except that it's worse than that."

Funny..Don't Wake Me reminded me of Yours To Hold more so than Say Goodbye..maybe it was the lone acoustic guitar intro. However, I like Don't Wake Me more than most/all the ballads off Comatose, but that's just my opinion.

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"Comatose" is so much better than "Awake".
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If I had to rank Skillet albums, I'd do it something like this:

1) Hey You, I Love Your Soul
2) Collide
3) Alien Youth
4) Invincible
5) Skillet
6) Comatose
7) Awake

But I'd say that Collide is my favorite musically. Hey You has well-written songs and interesting sounds, but weak production, which kind of weakens the effect of the "harder" songs. Collide is just in your face and unapologetic and HARSH and I love it for that.

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If I had to rank Skillet albums, I'd do it something like this:
1) Hey You, I Love Your Soul
2) Collide
3) Alien Youth
4) Invincible
5) Skillet
6) Comatose
7) Awake

But I'd say that Collide is my favorite musically. Hey You has well-written songs and interesting sounds, but weak production, which kind of weakens the effect of the "harder" songs. Collide is just in your face and unapologetic and HARSH and I love it for that.

This seems like fun. Here is how I would rank them-

1)Invincible
2)Comatose
3)Hey You, I Love Your Soul
4)Collide
5)Awake
6)Alien Youth

Alien Youth was very...inconsistent, and very cheesy in places, IMO. Invincible just works, blending the ballads and rockers in an electronic sound very well.

I also haven't heard but a couple songs off Ardent Worship, and I have yet to buy the self-titled..

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Alien Youth was very...inconsistent, and very cheesy in places, IMO.


It was... "Stronger" and "Rippin' Me Off" are laughably awful, even by Awake standards.

However, some of my favorite Skillet tracks are on that album, and I think it's quite solid up through the first seven tracks. ("Thirst Is Taking Over" might me my all-time favorite Skillet song.)

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Alien Youth was very...inconsistent, and very cheesy in places, IMO.

It was... "Stronger" and "Rippin' Me Off" are laughably awful, even by Awake standards.

Yes, those were the main songs I was referring to.

Will You Be There? and Alien Youth are two very good songs, along with Earth Invasion, You Are My Hope, The Thirst Is Taking Over, and Kill Me, Heal Me. Didn't care for much of anything else on that album...


What is your favorite song on Hey You, I Love Your Soul? Mine is Scarecrow, easily.

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Will You Be There? and Alien Youth are two very good songs, along with Earth Invasion, You Are My Hope, The Thirst Is Taking Over, and Kill Me, Heal Me. Didn't care for much of anything else on that album...


You're forgetting "Vapor". Bone-crushing awesomeness; perfect precursor to their new sound on Collide. "Eating Me Away" was also solid; I loved how it cut right into "Kill Me, Heal Me" without missing a beat.

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Tough call. Some days it's the title track; some days it's "More Faithful". I think the whole album is pretty solid, though - the songwriting was much more intriguing when Ken Steorts was still in the band.

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You're forgetting "Vapor". Bone-crushing awesomeness; perfect precursor to their new sound on Collide. "Eating Me Away" was also solid; I loved how it cut right into "Kill Me, Heal Me" without missing a beat.

"Vapor" was a decent song, but I have never really liked it.

"Eating Me Away" was a pretty good song, but the verses ruin it, IMO.


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Tough call. Some days it's the title track; some days it's "More Faithful". I think the whole album is pretty solid, though - the songwriting was much more intriguing when Ken Steorts was still in the band.

Amen. It's actually sad to listen to Awake, and then listen to something like Hey You, I Love Your Soul, Invincible (which is my favorite Skillet album to date), or heck, even the more recent Collide, and then compare the two different eras.

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You're forgetting "Vapor". Bone-crushing awesomeness; perfect precursor to their new sound on Collide. "Eating Me Away" was also solid; I loved how it cut right into "Kill Me, Heal Me" without missing a beat.

"Vapor" was a decent song, but I have never really liked it.

"Eating Me Away" was a pretty good song, but the verses ruin it, IMO.


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Tough call. Some days it's the title track; some days it's "More Faithful". I think the whole album is pretty solid, though - the songwriting was much more intriguing when Ken Steorts was still in the band.

Amen. It's actually sad to listen to Awake, and then listen to something like Hey You, I Love Your Soul, Invincible (which is my favorite Skillet album to date), or heck, even the more recent Collide, and then compare the two different eras.


For sure! It all goes downhill after Collide. Skillet was one of my favorite bands. I bought Awake and I only like "Awake and Alive". The rest is
If I may say, their two latest albums "Comatose" and "Awake" sound way too much like Nickelback.

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If I may say, their two latest albums "Comatose" and "Awake" sound way too much like Nickelback.


And that's just about the crappiest band in the world to imitate.

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Kutless. *ehem*


Kutless is a good candidate for World's Worst Band, and they've stolen a few ideas from the Nickelback Playbook as well. But if you compare the latest Kutless and Skillet albums, I'd say Skillet's is worse. And I haaaaaaaaaate Kutless, but even I can see where they did a sort of halfway-approaching-average job for a change.

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It was... "Stronger" and "Rippin' Me Off" are laughably awful, even by Awake standards.

However, some of my favorite Skillet tracks are on that album, and I think it's quite solid up through the first seven tracks. ("Thirst Is Taking Over" might me my all-time favorite Skillet song.)

NOTHING beats out Awake for worst Skillet album EVER. I just HATE that album. In this case, if Two Hands by Jars and Monster...well, any song of their album really...by Skillet were the only two songs on earth, I would choose of course, Two Hands. Even that song is good by Awake standards.


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"Two Hands" isn't a bad song. It's OK. It's just got a lot to live up to 'cause it's a Jars song.

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"Truer words were never spoke"

btw. The above song qoute is from Mirrors and Smoke....

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"Truer words were never spoke"

btw. The above song qoute is from Mirrors and Smoke....


One of my favorite Jars songs. Despite the bad grammar.

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Put me down as another one who doesn't like Awake.  Too many cheesy lyrics and a few carbon copy songs from their last album.  I loved them in concert a few years ago, but their next album will be listen before I buy.
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The thing is, I don't begrudge Skillet for trying to write songs that are relateable to a younger audience. I just think it can be done without having to rip off other bands, or even your own band. I don't have a problem with hearing a song and thinking, "Well, this is more about subject matter than teens can relate to" - it doesn't mean I can't relate or can't remember what it was like to be that age and struggling with my self-esteem, etc. But I think Christian musicians really insult the intelligence of young Christians when it acts like the best way to get their attention is to imitate the bands they like and write lyrics that only superficially scratch the surface of the difficult subject matter that the writers claim to be addressing.

There are young folks here who like Jars of Clay. Jars of Clay doesn't write for a specific age group, but they must be doing something right to draw such a diverse range of fans while not doing it the same way on every album and almost never copying past versions of themselves.

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That's true I was listening to Jars when I was eleven. "Redemption" was one of my favorite songs back then; it still is. I was into the deeper stuff when I was younger. Other eleven and twelve year olds are now too. I'm sure.
"Comatose" frustated me a little. It still better than "Awake" but it's alot of filler songs to me. Give me the old Skillet back. Sure bands should change it up a little but not like this.

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That's true I was listening to Jars when I was eleven. "Redemption" was one of my favorite songs back then; it still is. I was into the deeper stuff when I was younger. Other eleven and twelve year olds are now too. I'm sure.


"Redemption" came out when you were 11? Man, it's gotten to the point where most you folks here are making me feel really old. That's actually reassuring. I'm glad this band can still draw a young audience.

More of them would be into stuff like that if the Christian music industry did a better job of highlighting the intelligent music that is out there instead of only marketing fluff to our young folks.
 
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Completely off topic, but what is the point of this emoticon? To express that you're typing at a computer? I kind of figured that out already.

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the is just kinda like my signature. That's why it's in my signature. None of the other smileys fit with my post. So I used it twice.

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the is just kinda like my signature. That's why it's in my signature. None of the other smileys fit with my post. So I used it twice.


I guess I was just wondering why such an emoticon even existed in the first place.

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I take it as just simply stating your opinion. Then that's just my opinion .



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I take it as just simply stating your opinion. Then that's just my opinion .


Isn't it obvious that what you're expressing is your opinion, though? (Then again, maybe not, given what inspired my signature.)

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My review.

http://www.epinions.com/content_490150399620


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My review.

http://www.epinions.com/content_490150399620


I loved the review.

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