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clayhazelnut

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Click on this!

This looks pretty cool. Lots of neat perks for pitching in, and we can pick the track list!
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So, in other words, 10 of those 20 tracks will be a re-recording of the debut album.

EDIT: Just kidding. I noticed they're limiting it to 2 tracks per album. Smart.

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Ok, I am so excited right now! I pledged to get the White Elephant Sessions CD. Having been a Jars fan pretty much my entire life, I've always dreamed of owning one of their rarities. I know a lot of people on here are huge collectors of Jars memorabilia, so it's not a huge deal, but for me I am so excited! Also pledged for the signed poster (I'm a huge poster fan). I'd also love to have that double LP, but I think I've spent enough money today, haha! 

Hopefully the LP will be available to purchase once the album is released.

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It would be fun to try to guess which songs from each album will make the cut. "Worlds Apart" and "Flood" are obviously going to dominate the first album votes (I can't argue with either of those, even though my dark horse pick would be "Like a Child"), and votes for the rest will probably trend toward singles as well, but I'm not sure which ones, especially from The Eleventh Hour onward, which is basically when I gave up on radio altogether.
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So how many votes would it take to get "Kaylos" put on this?
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Oh thank goodness that they are limiting it to two tracks per album.


Then we would have the debut album and worship songs from Redemption Songs and Shelter.

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I'm ordering the black vinyl.  I'd like the colored vinyl, but the budget is tight right now, so $35 sounds better than $50.  In the end, it's about the music.
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Oh thank goodness that they are limiting it to two tracks per album.


Then we would have the debut album and worship songs from Redemption Songs and Shelter.



Yes, this will make for a very interesting album, since we have heard the debut album done many times, in comparison to some of their other albums.  Interesting to see Flood hasn't gotten that many votes so far.  I probably have around 15 different recordings of that song, so I voted for something else. 
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I knew "Worlds Apart" was going to slaughter the competition, but I'm surprised to see "Flood" lagging behind. It's one of those songs that I also don't really need another re-interpretation of, but on a retrospective spanning the band's career, it seems weird to leave it out, too.
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I kinda wish we couldn't see the percentages. Because it tempted me to vote for the songs that I kinda like and have the best chance of beating a song that I didn't want, rather than vote honestly for my top two favorites.
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I kinda wish we couldn't see the percentages. Because it tempted me to vote for the songs that I kinda like and have the best chance of beating a song that I didn't want, rather than vote honestly for my top two favorites.


I agree. Plus, by the time the winners are announced, they'll all be foregone conclusions. I rather like not knowing going into this what some of the fan favorites on a few of their later albums are.

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I ordered the tee-shirt, signed CD, and the vinyl and I think one other thing...trying to get my wife on board with flying out to Nashville in September for the concert and such...she isn't convinced yet since I'm going there the end of April for the in studio show of 11th hour....
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I knew "Worlds Apart" was going to slaughter the competition, but I'm surprised to see "Flood" lagging behind. It's one of those songs that I also don't really need another re-interpretation of, but on a retrospective spanning the band's career, it seems weird to leave it out, too.


I'm not shocked at all the Flood isn't up there...Love Song is a hidden goodie that for real fans is held closer to the heart...personally I'd rather see Boy On A String rather than Love Song...but it is what it is.

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Is Love Song really all that "hidden"? It was one of their first CHR singles, for the stations that thought "Flood" was a bit too rock-oriented for their listeners, I guess. I figured it was the #3 most popular song on the album, after the obvious.
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I wish I knew how they determined the top two songs from these polls. Maybe they explained it, I don't remember.

Will they take the song with the most votes from the #1 Top Song section and the song with the most votes from the #2 Top Song section and record those two? Or will it simply be the top two song from both polls combined? 

I hope it's the second way, otherwise I don't think it would really be a true representation of the pledgers' top two favorite songs from each album. It would kinda skew things.

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I wish I knew how they determined the top two songs from these polls. Maybe they explained it, I don't remember.

Will they take the song with the most votes from the #1 Top Song section and the song with the most votes from the #2 Top Song section and record those two? Or will it simply be the top two song from both polls combined? 

I hope it's the second way, otherwise I don't think it would really be a true representation of the pledgers' top two favorite songs from each album. It would kinda skew things.


Those are interesting questions. If 30% picked Song A as their favorite, 25% picked Song B as their favorite, and 50% picked Song C as their second favorite, which one "wins"?

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 Those are interesting questions. If 30% picked Song A as their favorite, 25% picked Song B as their favorite, and 50% picked Song C as their second favorite, which one "wins"?


Exactly. Obviously, there are tons of variations on how to conduct a vote (http://www.castleton.edu/math/finite/voting_methods.htm), but I don't expect them to be doing anything too technical. 

Take for example the Much Afraid album poll. If it's a straight top two most popular songs from both the #1 Song poll and #2 Song poll, there are simply 200 percentage points up for grabs (I'm using percentage points because obviously we don't know the actual number of votes). 

Fade to Grey would take First Place with 19+23=42% of the total 200% of votes.
Tea and Sympathy would take Second Place with 26+4=30, even though it had more first place votes.

With the alternate method, Tea and Sympathy would take first place for being most popular in the first pole, and Fade to Grey would take second for being most popular in the second.

Obviously, in this scenario it wouldn't currently matter because the same two songs win either way. But it could easily make a difference in another scenario. Especially right now in the debut album poll, where the votes are so close.

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Just got an email saying the goal had been met.  Yay!
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Sometimes I wish that the fans of the band were not voting for the song list of this 20th Compilation...

Some of the highest voted songs make me disappointed to have pledged.

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Sometimes I wish that the fans of the band were not voting for the song list of this 20th Compilation...

Some of the highest voted songs make me disappointed to have pledged.



A few of the popular choices are disappointing to me, but there's no way a compilation like this could please everyone. What I'm hoping is that even if a few songs are picked that I don't like as much, they may be reimagined in a way that makes them fresh and interesting to my ears. To put things in perspective, the band has very few bad songs, and I don't think any of those are wildly popular with the fanbase.

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Are they re-imagining the songs? I thought they were just doing acoustic versions, and many of the songs that are highest voted are already mostly acoustic...

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Are they re-imagining the songs? I thought they were just doing acoustic versions, and many of the songs that are highest voted are already mostly acoustic...



It would take a bit of imagination to do some of them acoustic, as evidenced by the StageIt shows thus far. Also think back to Furthermore, and how a few songs, "Liquid" in particular, were quite different. (Hmmm, now I'm not so sure that I want this.)

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I think it's a reinterpretation of the songs. That's what they said during their concert in the Philippines. Glad I was able to pledge. I am so excited. By the way, anyone noticed about the shipping fee? There are no shipping fees and it's freaking me out haha 
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They do have shipping fees, but they are calculated into the price of the reward. I use several VPN, so I've seen the site with the rewards from different locations and in all other locations the prices are higher than in the US to reflect shipping costs. So if you logged in from the Philippines and ordered your rewards from there, there shouldn't be any additional shipping charges.
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