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Hey guys, just a quick question for you. Have you considered doing anything in the iTunes LP format? I'd heard that, initially, the cost was prohibitive, but that Apple had started opening the format up a bit. Just curious.
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You do know that a few years ago they released "iTunes Originals: Jars of clay" right?  It had a mix of studio recordings, interviews, and new acoustic versions of songs.  It came out right before Good Monsters.  Sadly, unless they put it back up, it is not available for download on iTunes any longer. Also, in the upcoming months, I think I read the band is going to release 4(?) EPs, so keep your eyes and ears open.
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Yeah, sorry bout that. I meant iTunes LP format. I have the iTunes Originals and Live at Gray Matters. The iTunes LP format would be for a major release like The Shelter and would include video content, interactive artwork, and other bonus material. Apple announced the format back in September (I think). I should probably change the thread title.
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Weird, people keep posting that the album is off iTunes but it's still showing up for me: http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/itunes-originals-jars-of-clay/id303189604
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iTunes LP would be... interesting, but IMHO not the right direction.

1. iTunes content has always been a problem for non-Americans.
2. iTunes music is technically inferior to a CD/LP format.
3. I still prefer hard copies: disc, jewel case, booklet insert.

I'd stay to stick with the Limited Edition for additional content.

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I am with David.
Limited Edition for additional content would be the best.
I prefer hard copies.

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Yeah, I can see what you guys are saying. I'm crazy though, and I'd buy both anyway. For a couple of bands that I follow regularly, I've got some picture frames I made a while back that can fit a grid of 3/3 jewel cases. I hang them as art in my office, so I'm nowhere near giving up on physical releases, but I really like what Dave Matthews did with his iTunes LP. The artwork, visualizers, menus, and videos all integrated into a nice little package are kind of cool. Although, yeah, I'd take a LFBTE style SE any day.
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I am with Juk. It all sounds great,but nothing beats the real deal of a cd,or vinyl. I think having a download,and burning it to a cd looks cheesy.
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I am with Juk. It all sounds great,but nothing beats the real deal of a cd,or vinyl. I think having a download,and burning it to a cd looks cheesy.


Hard Copies are treasure however for those who have MP3 players on their cars or iPod's it's good to have a softcopy or MP3 copies of the CD's or LP's and perhaps that is the main reason for requesting a downloadable song or album.
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Hard Copies are treasure however for those who have MP3 players on their cars or iPod's it's good to have a softcopy or MP3 copies of the CD's or LP's and perhaps that is the main reason for requesting a downloadable song or album.

One can make MP3 files within minutes from a CD. I don't understand why anyone would desire a limited digital file over a physical CD.

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I don't either.

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Yup, I hear you guys.  I will take a CD over MP3 anyday.  But I will purchase stuff from iTunes if a physical CD doesn't exist, such as the latest Live at Gray Matters releases.  Long live the hard copy!

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Down with physical media! 

As far as music goes, I've been totally digital for about two years now. Long since moved past any notions of having to own a physical copy of an album. That all came about because I'd realised I hadn't listen to an actual CD for about the two years prior to that. I'd buy an album, rip it, put the mp3s on my iPod and never touch the disc again.

I do have issues with iTunes and Apple's various restrictions, and will only buy from them if a song or album just isn't available elsewhere, but it's increasingly the case that artists and/or their labels are offering direct, high quality downloads from their own sites.

And don't get me started on the 'but CDs sound better and mp3 are just so limited' bent. 320kbps mp3s are just fine by me. There are very few people who have the equipment + the knowledge and trained ears to actually hear any difference, and you need both for this to actually be an issue. For me, the benefits are less expense than physical albums, decluttered shelves, and the ease of managing a digital music library that's accessible by any computer on our network, including my media centre PC. Works an absolute treat, let me tell you.

All that to say, I'd prefer a download bundle for additional content. Unless of course there's t-shirts or things like that involved. Sure, the packaging for limited editions are sometimes nifty, and I've got my Long Fall box on display, but that hardly seems a decent justification to me nowadays.
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And if your compter's hard drive goes out,or your mp3 player quits working,you save the steps of backing them up by already owning the physical copy. You just can't replace the experience of buying that album on release day with a friend,or at a concert,cruising around with it playing in the car,grabbing lunch,or getting it signed at a meet and greet. Mp3's are not as exciting,you don't really get any excitement as actually picking up the real deal,and the artwork,lyrics,liner notes,etc. Physical copies will always be better.
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It surprises me every time that I log in how this thread has slowly creeped along. Hahaha.

@pachic I will defend agains the hard drive crash and mp3 player statement. This goes for everyone in this thread: always back up. There is no excuse with HDDs costing as little as they do today, there is no reason that you shouldn't have your entire drive backed up to an external drive (or multiple external drives). That said, once I've backed up my HDD, it's much easier to put thousands of mp3s back on my computer than it is to rip hundreds of CDs again.

I do understand where a lot of people are coming from on the artwork/liner notes/physical media aspect of things, though. I was there at one point. I still am to some extent. I've got a ton of vinyl records that I don't see myself ever ditching, but with the exception of collectables, I don't really feel the need. Other than a handful of bands, I've gone strictly digital. I've pared down my physical collection to roughly 30 albums, and the rest are in a bin in storage. It blew me away how much space I cleared up when I got rid of my CD towers.

I'd still love to see a simultaneous release of an iTunes LP and physical bundle. I'd probably buy both, but I'd be excited to see what direction the guys might take the interactive features of the LP format in.
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I was anti mp3 format until recently.  Now I use amazon mp3 along with their premium cloud player subscription.  I can store up to 250,000 songs for 24.99 for a year.  I can use the cloud player on mine and my wife's phones, our work computers, my kindle, and my two rokus.  I'm usually a physical copy guy (and I still collect vinyl) but the convenience, along with the thought of just redownloading the tunes in case anything happens just sealed the deal.  Now I barely mess with cd's anymore in my car, and I can stream my entire music library of about 20,000 songs on any device instantly.

It's just too easy these days.
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