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I was wondering if Christians care more about denominational affliation when it comes to musical artist they choose to listen to. I really would love some feedback on this. I believe that we as believers can get past theological issues , so that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are praised. I have friends who don't believe this.(only people who think like them are worthy of their fellowship) I was just wondering what some of you guys do when you are confronted with denominational prejudices?
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I'm obviously not Dan (or any of the other Jars, for that matter), but I'm gonna give my 2 cents anyway. I attend an inter-denominational church and before that, I went to a non-denominational church (same thing basically) so I've been frustrated and confused by denominations for a long time. I just don't understand how we got our priorities so mixed up. My mom always says, "There won't be denominations in heaven so we might as well all learn how to get along here on Earth." My church also has a good saying: "[We strive] to major on the major doctrines while minoring on the minors. In essentials unity, in non-essentials diversity, in all things charity."
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I think denominations are not important when it comes to listen to a band, as we all follow the same Bible.

I think however they are important for the Church to have unity and for growth. We have different views on interpretations, different ways of worshipping, different priorities. We are fallen human beings who aren't all the same - we will have to be with God face to face to do that.

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I was wondering if Christians care more about denominational affliation when it comes to musical artist they choose to listen to. I really would love some feedback on this. I believe that we as believers can get past theological issues , so that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are praised. I have friends who don't believe this.(only people who think like them are worthy of their fellowship) I was just wondering what some of you guys do when you are confronted with denominational prejudices?


I'm interested to see what Dan says to this. I think this should also be posted in the 'other' category, so that we, as jarks, can respond as well. I'm sure some of us have strong opinions on the topic!
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no, it doesn't matter. I listen to non-christian artists, so obviously it doesn't matter to me. As for in general, as long as you're correct on the core doctrines, that's what matters.

And I don't affiliate with any denomination.

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I get the impression that it doesn't really either. I think 99% of christian bands are all singing about the same essential truths in their music (that Christ died for our sins, rose on the 3rd day and is coming back for us) I haven't really heard a christian band whose music diverges too far from those basic truths.

On top of that, I never know what denomination a band holds to anyway, so as long as their lyrics sound good to me, then that's good enough.
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Yea, I am non denom. (raised Catholic) But even bands will tell you that it doesnt matter. When I saw Audio A. They were like, we are all God's children regardless, Jesus is what we ALL have...
It was really cool!

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I listen to good music. I like some music by devout atheists. So when it comes to denominations, I couldn't care less. As long as I can find something good in a song, even if it's just the struggle they're going through (i.e. "Otherside" by Red Hot Chili Peppers), I like it. Denominations...not a big deal to me. I have a feeling most people would say the same thing. If you know friends who are Presbytirian and not listening to music by Baptists, they've got bigger issues to deal with lol

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I agree with you guys... the doctrine they are teaching is much more important than what denomination they are. Most of the artists I listen to, I'm really not sure if they're affiliated w/ any particular denomination! I'm a Methodist, & the way I see the denomination thing is that God can reach people through many different ways, & we as humans react differently to certain denominations. I think it's cool whenever a person gets involved in a church, doesn't matter what kind it is, as long as it teaches Biblical truth.
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I was wondering if Christians care more about denominational affiliation when it comes to musical artist they choose to listen to. I really would love some feedback on this. I believe that we as believers can get past theological issues , so that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are praised. I have friends who don't believe this.(only people who think like them are worthy of their fellowship) I was just wondering what some of you guys do when you are confronted with denominational prejudices?

I know this is a really old post but I wanted to comment on it. The only time I think denominational leanings are important when listening to music is when the particular song is dealing with doctrine. For instance, I don't see myself, a Presbyterian (PCA), would enjoy listening to a song about how the choice of salvation is mine and mine alone. On the other hand, if he song is simply praising the Lord Jesus Christ, one's denomination is irrelevant.

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i think denominational affiliation kinda matters to them. maybe. that's how i see them. or maybe, not really the denomination per se but the denomination's faith, belief, or doctrine, or practice or whatsoever.

on the other very different side, their music is for everyone.


as for me, i dont know where my "La Trinidad Community Of Believers" belong. i think i'll just say, we're interdenom. i also have a difficulty answering people asking me what denomination i belong to, so sometimes i just simply answer them, "well, im a Christian"...


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I do not think "denomination," is a good basis for whether music should be heard or not. Mostly, i think we all need to use a proper set of filters when we approach anyone speaking or singing.

I do take issue with any docrinal language that either creates more law, or establishes the ability for a person to earn their salvation, or potentially lose it by their behavior.

I imagine that these are some of the very issues that were at the core of why certain denominations formed, but in the end, I don't think it is a matter of whether or not we should listen to those messages, as much as it is a matter of holding all messages up to the Gospel and seeing where it falls short, or where it falls in line.

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I do take issue with any docrinal language that either creates more law, or establishes the ability for a person to earn their salvation, or potentially lose it by their behavior.



does that need more elaboration, anyone?


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well.. the whole point of the gospel is that we can't earn our salvation...so anyone with a bible should be able to say that

edit: the only time i get really bugged by theology in songs is worship songs that have bad theology....like a song (a specific song, Jesus, lover of my soul) that says "JEsus, i'll NEVER let you GO" (PS - the rest of the song I don't mind, i just thought of that one line right now)

i feel like songs like that lie....I'm only still a Christian because God never let ME go, not the other way around...I, sadly, have let him go many times.

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I do take issue with any docrinal language that either creates more law, or establishes the ability for a person to earn their salvation, or potentially lose it by their behavior.



does that need more elaboration, anyone?

He is against salvation by works. The sacrifice of Christ being the thing which has saved us. I believe that is what he means, anyway.

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I do take issue with any docrinal language that either creates more law, or establishes the ability for a person to earn their salvation, or potentially lose it by their behavior.



does that need more elaboration, anyone?

He is against salvation by works. The sacrifice of Christ being the thing which has saved us. I believe that is what he means, anyway.


I wondered if he was talking about the kind of line drawing that sometimes happens - this is Christian and that isn't.  But one that's a man-made construction (think Pharasee - sorry, can't spell today) rather than God-breathed and Christ-like. 

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I do take issue with any docrinal language that either creates more law, or establishes the ability for a person to earn their salvation, or potentially lose it by their behavior.



does that need more elaboration, anyone?

He is against salvation by works. The sacrifice of Christ being the thing which has saved us. I believe that is what he means, anyway.


I wondered if he was talking about the kind of line drawing that sometimes happens - this is Christian and that isn't.  But one that's a man-made construction (think Pharasee - sorry, can't spell today) rather than God-breathed and Christ-like. 

Tubbs

I believe that he has said things to indicate he is against that is the past.

Christ said to love God and love our neighbors, and we would keep the whole law, anything more is what man has added to it.

I should also note to not confuse salvation with justification. We are saved by Christ's death, and that salvation should produce in us a desire to follow Christ's commands, which is the justification (IE: evidence of) our salvation.


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I do not think "denomination," is a good basis for whether music should be heard or not. Mostly, i think we all need to use a proper set of filters when we approach anyone speaking or singing.

I do take issue with any docrinal language that either creates more law, or establishes the ability for a person to earn their salvation, or potentially lose it by their behavior.



In all honesty, and you are just going to have to go to the Holy Spirit to find out if this is true...the gravity of ...what Im about to say....it hurts and at the same time brings me euphoria...to know that someone else on this planet....can with one fail swoop...see the world and describe it as easy as breathing....laying aside the songs...laying aside the band....the celebrity....the humanity....even gender....I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that people all over this world can walk totally separate paths...live completely separate circumstances from birth...and still end up learning the exact same things and being willing to die for them. In short....outside of Jars of Clay....outside of your lyrics...your not just a brother in Christ. You are a confirmation. And I am honored to have been taught through the floods, fires and the valleys...precisely how to intercede in prayer for you. And I may never see you face to face, but it is enough knowing that humility and blazing passion can co-exist equally in the same earthen vessel.

My words can get heavier in the way of describing yourself to you in an effort to minister and prove what you are worth not only to God, but to this world Im not going to let them unless I see you need it. Im not here to boost ego. We all have a thorn we need to keep us responsive. I am an exhorter. And I very, very much adore your music. But I cherish your strong spirit, your obedience, and your nearly extinct fragility and longing to be covered. I pray for you and your family.You will find this post at an appointed time.

( Whew) Been waiting to say that for I don't know how many years....rather not count 'em cuz they wont end up on one hand alone.

Alright! Lets get this over with! Anybody feel a good heckle coming on? And....how many people in the bible were ordered to look after prophets from afar? Yeah...lets not go there, shall we?
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How weird is that I accidentally stumbled upon this thread 9 years later and finally read the replies? haha. I think was in college when I asked the question. I was basically thinking that it didn't matter what sect or branch or denomination that a band was connected to as long as they had faith in Christ and they didn't do anything illegal. I think some students at my college had said to me that they didn't listen to bands of a certain denominations and I thought it was pretty stupid if memory serves me correctly.

I was also curious at that time if the guys in the band actually had any free time to regularly attend a house of worship. 

Oh...the questions of youth. :-)

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