Newbie Like a Child
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Hi, all. This is my first post here. I've been a Jars fan since the beginning. I've been to several of their concerts, and this is definitely the best performance I've ever seen by them. For my part, I absolutely love
The Shelter and think it contains some of the best melodies Jars have ever produced. It was a sold out crowd last night. Two major disappointments with the concert: 1) Charlie was not there. =( They didn't say why. 2) It seemed that 90% of the crowd came to see Matt Maher, not Jars. They clapped and sung and were positively exuberant during his set and cheered loudly anytime his name was mentioned during the concert. By the time Jars came on, 5 seats next to me were empty, and another 2 people left before their set was over. I'm sure some of that had to with the fact that the concert lasted 3 hours and 15 min and that half the people there were kids. *rolls eyes* I'm sure some of it also has to do with the fact that most Christians, unfortunately, are only interested in a worship experience, not a concert experience. I mean, the crowd got into it at certain points during Jars' performance. But as I peered around during other times, I saw people talking, texting, and just generally looking bored. Just like all the other Jars concerts I've been to. *sigh* Just once, I'd like to see them perform with other true fans and nobody else. Highlights: ~ Dan beating the "glitter" drum during "Small Rebellions." He used the drum often during their hour and a half set. Later on he made a joke about looking like a "vampire in the daylight" since he was covered in glitter. ~ "Eyes Wide Open" - one of my favorite songs on the album, even better live because it's more rock oriented; everyone came out for this one, and they did a very cool percussion breakout after the song; I didn't realize the deep meaning behind this song - Dan explained it's about us digging our heels into the ground when we're so sure we're right about something and don't care to listen to the other person anymore, and so the conversation stops. He said that if our stubbornness to be right makes us love people less, then maybe we're not actually right. ~ "Love Will Find Us" - one of my least favorite songs on the album, but they did a very powerful live version of it that was pretty impressive; big crescendo at the end ~ "Run In the Night" - my favorite song on the album and probably my favorite song they performed during the night; Steve, in particular, seemed very much into this song It was nice to hear Steve sing solo several times. Just a few lines, but more than I've ever seen before. I wish we could hear him sing more, period. Got the inevitable person yelling out "Flood!" during their set, to which Dan replied "no" and Steve replied, "Ma'am, you could get in trouble for saying that here, with all these people. I could call the police on you." =) But they did play "Flood." They mentioned about re-releasing the debut album on "vinyl." Steve said, "Parents, this a teaching moment for your kids, but don't just throw them into a room with cassettes" and started laughing and seemed to be trying to correct himself, and Dan apologized about bringing up a conversation the parents weren't ready to have yet. They said the vinyl is not what you wear or sit on. So, I was very proud of the guys, very much enjoyed their performance. Just wish others around me were enjoying it as much as I was. =/ Thanks. =)
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It's funny how you mention people were there to see Matt Maher and I'm curious about something I've been noticing for a long time. It seems that Jars have two audiences: (a.) their real core fan base who has followed them through thick and thin, and (b.) a much larger casual fan base who know Jars for their ST album and maybe the occasional Christian radio single. The first group loves Jars in their entirety, the second loves Jars as a one-trick pony for their ST.
For all of the people who turn out to see Jars at a concert, I have a feeling that most of them comprise the second group that just wants to hear those couple signature songs and that's it. And I would hazard to guess that the reason the second group appreciates the ST is not because they really understand it, but because they're using those songs in an emotional way that many use Worship music as a catalyst to an emotional experience. I think the ST lends itself more easily to that kind of use than the the rest of Jars' repetoire--not because it's a bad album, but because it used some of those buzz words in a subversive way that most people who are into Jars' first album don't really get. So Jars find themselves headlining big shows and festivals because so many people turn out to hear the ST, but those crowds are bored by everything else Jars does. I wouldn't be surprised to find that us core fans make up a very small minority of people who "like" Jars. Though that could just be in the South: it sounds like Jars shows go much better in the North and North-Western U.S. ~Derek
Newbie Like a Child
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It seems that Jars have two audiences: (a.) their real core fan base who has followed them through thick and thin, and (b.) a much larger casual fan base who know Jars for their ST album and maybe the occasional Christian radio single. The first group loves Jars in their entirety, the second loves Jars as a one-trick pony for their ST.
I wouldn't be surprised that us core fans make up a very small minority of people who "like" Jars.
I think you're right on the money here. I heard people singing along to "Two Hands," "Like a Child," and "Love Song for a Savior," but it seemed they hadn't ever heard of any of the other songs. When Dan mentioned about The Shelter coming out last November, there wasn't much clapping. It's so sad because they deserve such a bigger audience. The people who would appreciate their music, I think, never hear it. I've been waiting for them to hit big again and do some crossover into the mainstream again, but I wonder now if that's just not in the cards for them.
Though that could just be in the South: it sounds like Jars shows go much better in the North and North-Western U.S.
If this is the case, maybe I'll have to take a weekend drive one day just to see Jars concert with a decent audience.
Newbie Like a Child
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Jars have been my favorite band since Flood days. I remember their first performance on the Dove awards. Not a big worship and praise music fan. Had awesome seats and got to go to the meet and greet. Great concert!! I also saw them at House of the Blues in Orlando two years ago! I think Holy Name, the church that sponsored them are big Matt Maher fans. Yes, I was one of the ones that knew all the words to the Jars' songs, but knew none of the other artist's songs. Was lots of fun. I think Holy Name brought Audrey Assad before. __________________ The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.
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Originally Posted by
SealOfServants And I would hazard to guess that the reason the second group appreciates the ST is not because they really understand it, but because they're using those songs in an emotional way that many use Worship music as a catalyst to an emotional experience. I think the ST lends itself more easily to that kind of use than the the rest of Jars' repetoire--not because it's a bad album, but because it used some of those buzz words in a subversive way that most people who are into Jars' first album don't really get.
I think you're dead-on with this assessment, although it's baffling to me that people would now rather settle for the bastardized version of worship record labels are pushing rather than digging into Jars songs to grasp onto the same topics put in a much more artistic frame. The choruses on the ST are for the most part simpler than later albums, but the verses have similar depth. The ST is more prayerful than later material, which probes more. Jars continues to confuse me as being one of the most popular not-popular bands in Christian music.
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I have always called them the "most famous band that no one has heard of" but who have won three Grammies. A lot of that has to do with the Christian radio stations that play their music. They have a great fan base and following on the West coast as many of the stations (K Love, etc) play all their music not just ST. I have talked many times to our local station as they never played Jars. Now when they do it's all old stuff. They profess that they love them but never play their music.
I never heard their music until 2003. I do not live in a cave but again, it was never played on any of the stations. So there are the two categories of fans...the "play Flood" crowd and the rest of us who really love the words and the music. I really am rather sick of the "worship" movement. I think it really was a move of God in the late 90's, early 2000's but now it smells of greed. I do not mean to be unkind, as I did enjoy Matt Mahr, but if he hadn't been with Jars I wouldn't have driven to PA to see him. On the local stations it is a constant mix of Chris Tomlin, Mercy Me and Casting Crowns. I have given up trying to get them to play Jars, so I have stopped listening to the station. To be honest, I'd rather listen to the local country station! __________________ The author (artist) who benefits you most is not the one who tells you something you did not know before, but the one who gives expression to the truth that has been dumbly struggling in you for utterance.